Three Stabbed in Micheltorena-Bath Street Fight

I often wonder why it is acceptable by our journalistic friends to differentiate a perpetrator of crime by the country of origin of his or her ancestors, but not by his or her citizenship status. Is there some strange new unwritten taboo against complete reporting of facts? Perhaps Shannon can answer this, apparently being fresh from journalism school?

If the concern is about "racial profiling" then why is applying the term "Latino" or "Hispanic" acceptable, but citizenship status is not? Or are we pretending for some unwritten reason that there is no such thing as an illegal immigrant in our country? If the concern is about being biased toward a race or minority, you have already broken that rule by saying he or she is Latino or Hispanic, so just apply the same rules to all. If it is an Anglo foreign national committing a crime, please tell us if he or she is here legally or not, in the interest of complete reporting and providing facts to the citizens. Then we would know if we should crack down on the tolerance of Anglo foreign nationals with expired visas or not, or elect politicians who will.

AShaw apparently thinks the immigration status of the involved persons has to do with the propensity to commit the act. It is this sort of unrational association that is the hallmark of bigotry. The idea that certain people are unable to conform to social norms, or worse, have an agenda to undermine "our" social norms is what AShaw is suggesting. AShaw won't get this thought because it is easier to decide complex issues with simplistic ideas.

Perhaps AShaw it's because Shannon is not asinine...?

The general populace does not care. You do. It undoubtedly fuels racial theories you hold dear. Generally i find that it is losers driving around in dirty beat-up old cars, living in a generally slovenly fashion and without much enjoyment in their lives that look to blame their woes on others. Look in the mirror, clean yourself up and work harder. When you have a minute, read the plaque that is on the base of the Statue of Liberty. This great nation was built on the backs of immigrants. And unless your real name is something like "running cloud" you have an immigrant in your past also. Hope he got a better reception than the welcome mat you lay out. Very few illegal aliens go through all the trials, tribulations and risk to their lives to get to this country just so they can put their feet up and coast. (If that is even an option). People come here to WORK. And that work is what drives the economy and provides us with the standard of living that, if we are lucky, we will get to hold on to. So quit your incessant whining and do something useful.

The first person to bring up race in this issue was the author herself, but AShaw is taking the hit. I think what the critics here should ask is why the author brought up the issue that it was "three Latino youths" who were involved. It is this issue that AShaw has addressed, and rather than continuing to stick our heads in the sand, we can confront it, or choose to watch the violence spread.

AShaw's point about immigration *is* a logical one--even if the people involved in this violent act were born here. The reason I mention this is because when you take an already overcrowded and overpriced area and throw the door open to a country whose government clearly couldn't care less about actually solving the problems that drive people across the border and pack more and more people in here without any regard to the impact this creates, you have a recipe for disaster.

The attack tactic of "This country was built on immigrants" doesn't fly here; in the past, immigration was about assimilation and when you do away with the idea that when one comes in here they should learn the language and customs of the land, you have the second generation often feeling a lack of identity. The other thing some of you don't get is that while you think you are being so politically correct by going along with the open-border crowd, what you are supporting is unscrupulous business owner who couldn't care less about you, me, or the illegal immigrants they hire. These people know they can hire illegals at low wages and work them in unsafe conditions; THAT is at the core of "They do the work no one else can do".

Wake up people: The issue is not about bashing MEXICAN culture, it's about calling attention to AMERICAN economics which takes advantage of the fact that to the south of us we have a corrupt, dysfunctional government that uses the U.S. as a refugee camp to dump what it considers its undesirable people here. When these people come here, they are fed a line of B.S. by a combination of idealistic self-loathing White people, as well as by La Raza types, and by poverty pimps that somehow learning English and assimilating is somehow selling out your culture or well...just to difficult to do. Result: Low expectations which lead to low self-esteem which result in the fact that the Mexican-American demographic continues to be plagued by a disproportionally high amount of crime and stabbings are becoming more common. One more point: Before the U.S. dropped its de facto requirement that people immigrating here assimilate, there were always people to do the grunt work so the "they do the work Americans won't do" is a false argument.

I daresay that in this case it's NOT AShaw that needs to clean up his act, but rather his critics who fail to make the connection between immigration policy, the farce of "multiculturalism", and overcrowding. The facts are all there if you choose to see them.