Much like the federal government it is a part of, the National Forest Service conducts a census of sorts, but this one is carried out every five years instead of every decade. The program, conducted with the California State University San Marcos, is dubbed the National Visitor Use Monitoring (NVUM) program and will last for a year. To obtain the data necessary for Forest Service officials to evaluate the effectiveness of programs and facilities, polling stations will be placed on low speed National Forest access roads and Recreation Area exits, complete with orange vest-donned surveyors with a list of simple questions. Beginning now, the surveys are scheduled to last until September 2009.
In each survey, the number of people in each party will be evaluated, as well as the number of hours spent at any recreation activity. Some of the questions asked include: "What activities did you participate in?" "How long did you stay?" and "How satisfied are you with the facilities?" National Forest visitors are encouraged to participate in the short questionnaires, but no penalty will be assessed for choosing not to. The information collected will be used by the Forest Service and Congress to study funding needs, and will also be made available to entities studying recreation statistics. The National Forest Service has stated that their ultimate aim is for the surveys to allow them to provide the best customer service possible.
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Is that poll before or after the entry/use tax we now have to pay for what I thought we already owned for free?
sa1 (anonymous profile)
October 12, 2008 at 12:21 p.m. (Suggest removal)
The name of the agency is U.S. Forest Service, not "National".
This seems like another stoopid program of the Bush Administration, where the fee collection system is routinely ignored, where Forest uses that are exempt from the fee still have the paid vendors (who keep a share of the fees) try to collect the fee, and then have another private vendor try to collect personal date from taxpayers using their own public lands.
It all will be as successful as contractors to U.S. Department of Homeland Security asking anyone vaguely looking to be Mexican (whatever that looks like) about their immigration status, with a promise it only is for impartial data collection.
All not a valid sampling protocol and set up to attain the results desired ahead of time to justify a fee for using public lands.
The war in Iraq could pay for the entire Forest Service budget in a few days.
David_Pritchett (David Pritchett)
October 12, 2008 at 3:58 p.m. (Suggest removal)
Since I stopped using Forest facilities when the use tax was imposed several years ago, the census-takers will be able to deftly sidestep my opinion.
As well as the opinions of everyone else who has done the same as I have, and stopped going to the Forest.
I used to camp and barbecue there all the time, and had no problem paying for a campsite. Camp overnight, pay for it...not a problem.
I will not, however, pay an extra tax in the form of an "Adventure Pass" (is that another case of smelling like a rose as long as the name is the same...despite being a skunk?) to park there for day use and enjoy what my taxes have already paid for.
We pay all these taxes, and yet we still don't have healthcare for everyone, the school system still squanders its money on pay for executives, then whines for more money, the roads don't get fixed, and people are still homeless.
I don't mind paying taxes, but I need to see a return for my money, and I'm sure I'm not alone in this.
As for our forests, I don't see where the double-dipping being done has created anything except resentful people who have stopped going altogether. $5.00 is a lot of money in these times, but that isn't the point. The point is double-taxation, and for something that doesn't cost all that much...unless one factors in all the paychecks for the Federal employees needed to collect and process the money.
Ugh!
Holly (anonymous profile)
October 13, 2008 at 12:22 p.m. (Suggest removal)
"...complete with orange vest-donned surveyors with a list of simple questions."
This reminds me of those Santa Barbara "Hosts" a few years back that would troll the downtown area wearing pith-helmets ensuring an orderly experience for visitors and denizins alike. This is just another way for the government to control us.
So WHAT do we do about this ever-expanding waste of resources and time?
billclausen (anonymous profile)
October 13, 2008 at 2:32 p.m. (Suggest removal)
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