UCSB Republicans Make Waves at Fox News

Somehow I think the Campus Republicans and Faux News are still well ahead in the points tally about insulting and obnoxious behaviour towards those with different socio-political views.

Just one example:
http://www.independent.com/news/2008/may...

And for those readers who think that the Nolan and McNicholas would have been behaving the same way and saying the same stuff if the camera were not there recording it all, then I have a bridge across Cold Spring Canyon I would like to sell you....

Keep you day jobs, boys.
Leave the public affairs video production up to the adults.

Amazing how I recorded video of the same peace march last March, asked lots of questions of the participants, and no one cursed at me or told me to stop recording the video.

In five years will the neo-Neocons be marching in the streets to demand more offshore oil development or an invasion of Iran??

Let's look a little further into this. The anti-war crowd (of which I count myself) overwhelmingly vote for the Democratic Party. (I do not intend to vote for either party in this presidential election) Hillary voted for the war, (I guess she couldn't see through what her supporters referreed to as Bush's "lie", even though many of us did). Then the registered Democrats got behind Obama (As he cut his ties with pastor Jerimiah Wright ONLY after the press got wind of Wright's comments) and now Obama is for all intents and purposes the nominee.

Now I hear on the news that Obama--the icon of the anti-war movement--(To wit: "Hope" and "Change") is saying that we need to shift our military aggression from Iraq to Afghanistan. He is also saying that he has a 16-month timetable to pull our troops out. In other words, it's the same old line and his supporters actually think he will make a difference. (Sort of brings to mind Bush's comments that he won't be into "nation building")

The Democrats had a big opportunity for real change with Kucinich but the mob/fear mentality took over and as usual they--like their Republican counterparts--became more obsessed with getting a winning candidate, even if it is someone such as Obama who sells out his pastor for political gain, than nominating someone such as Kucinich who from all that I can see will address more thouroughly the issues that are of concern to many.

In other words, you can curse Bush, Mccain, college Republicans, or whoever, but from what I can see, fear has resulted in a situation where once again we have two business-as-usual candidates which almost guarantees this war will drag on. Of course if 16 months after Obama gets sworn in the war ends, I will be gladly chastised.

By the way Davidpritchett: I don't know Nolan and McNicholas and you may be right about this but do you have proof that Nolan and McNicholas would have behaved differently off camera?

"Amazing how I recorded video of the same peace march last March, asked lots of questions of the participants, and no one cursed at me or told me to stop recording the video"

There are one of two reasons for this: A: In support of your comments about the two cameramen, maybe they WERE being jerks and agitating the crowd. B: If they weren't, I'm guessing that it's a good possibility that they knew you were on their side and that McNicholas and Nolan weren't so it stands to reason that if they are already emotional (not to mention the mob mentality) they will treat them differently.

billclausen, you build a great deal of your argument against Obama on a premise which is not true: that is, Obama abandoned Rev. Wright *after* the press got wind of the content of filmed Wright sermons. And you have said this a number of other times, so let me straighten you out, my friend.

Wright's words were floating in and out of the Press for quite a while -- aided by the always windy Sean Hannity & other right-wing water-carriers -- before Obama presented in a national press conference his reasons why he was NOT abandoning Wright (or his racist Grandmother, for that matter).

Faced with this gracious, public display of big-heartedness, Wright exhibited more of his boorish nature by mocking Obama and dropping some more prime bits of insensitive nuttery.

It was then that Obama "sold out his Pastor" as you so vividly but wrongly suggest, at a point about three clicks past the bloody nose Wright so richly deserved.

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As to Obama's continuation of the Endless War for Eternal Peace our country seems locked into, I'm right there with you. (Although I'm more immediately pissed about Obama's endorsement eroding Amendment 4 of the Bill O'Rights, and exempting the Telecoms from the rule of law.)

Always makes me laugh when people get all paranoid about Bush peeping at their email, after smoking too much pot...but any law enforcement agency, computer hack, internet service provider, human resources department of your company, or employee of Yahoo can have a peep anytime they wish, whose gonna know?...assuming they would wish lol. The only real reason to worry is if you have something to hide like say planning to make a bomb, consorting with international terrorists or the like otherwise who do you think really cares about your boring and trivial personal correspondence binkster? And if they found out something "personal" what exactly are they going to do with the information besides have a good snicker? Bush really has better things to do..I'm sure Obama would too. What makes you so sure I can't trace you through your Independent screen name, plant a trojan through the Independent proxy server and intercept your email password? Make ya paranoid? Have another bong hit, pass out and forget about it. Actual plotting terrorists are more scary, trust me.

More offshore oil development! Bomb Iran! What's a neo-Neocon?

You're right about Wright binkster... he only abandoned him after sitting in his pew for twenty years and then getting smart that it might not play well when he decided to run for president. What's the difference exactly "when" after twenty years...it is only too obvious "why". Not that he didn't agree with everything he said or anything like that, just wanted it to look like he didn't. Sorry he just can't wiggle out of the obvious truth. You're splitting hairs.

The truth? He's a black racist. Or is he a white racist? 50/50 chance of either one. If he was smart he would claim he is white, then he couldn't be accused of being a racist, except everyone knows, only white people are capable of being racist. I guess he's screwed either way.

"White folks greed runs a world in need"

- Barrack Obama

Binky: I was under the impression that Obama had denounced Wright's comments for the first time after the press got wind of this, but if I'm mistaken, I stand corrected.

I'm glad you brought up the points about Obama's disregard for our rights because that needs to be brought to light as well.

Let it not be forgotton that Obama went along with McCain and supporter reauthorization of the Patriot Act.

Either way, we're blogging among ourselves while they find ways to invade our pocketbooks and chip away at our rights.

Binky's right, he stood up for his relationship with the pastor at first which is even worse than disassociating right away. By not doing it right away he proved his agreement with him. Then he threw him under the bus when he finally realized it wasn't good for his image to be associating with an outspoken black racist America hater. He had no problem with that until campaign time. Doesn't really matter when, just shows his poor judgement and lack of character either way. So much for the conviction of his beliefs. He doesn't have any, he just knows what people want to hear. What ever is politically expedient he will do. Whatever stance or appearance is most likely to get him elected. So obvious, Change we are stupid enough to believe in...Way off topic now.

The "typical white person" will of course vote for him, no matter what he says or does...ironically, because he is "black". To prove (to themselves?) that they aren't racist maybe? It's all insanity.

Somebody please tell me one thing - Where are all the "normal people" at anti-war rallies? The BushDem war for AIPAC and corporations is ruining us all, "normals" included. "Freaks" should be a tiny minority at these rallies. We need an "intervention." The whole ship is going down, yet without exaggeration 99.9999 percent of "normal people" refuse to risk being singled out in public for the offense of speaking out, or be put on a no-fly list. The yapping sheepdogs of war will run the whole vast herd of us over a cliff, and excuse me for mixing metaphors. "Sheepdogs of war?" Yucch.

Israel's fingerprints were all over 9-11, but our government won't act because they rely on the Israel lobby for campaign funding. When Israel attacked the spy ship USS Liberty, the fighter jets sent out to defend our troops were called back by Sec of Defense McNamara at President Johnson's bidding. Nothing changes. Could the system be broken? Can anyone say "Public Campaign Financing NOW!" Google that, and get involved. There's no risk of being called anti-American! Well, not much anyway, ha ha.

One thing for sure: I hear people saying "we have no choice", but when alternatives (Ron Paul, Dennis Kucinich, and other parties--such as the one that won the governors office in Minnesota a few years back) are offered, people run like cockroaches in a lit room.

I blame the sheepdogs that Adonis Tate rightly points out. This mentality is no different from that of high school kids blindly buying into the cross-town rivalry nonsense. All the while, one side is doing what the other side is doing. (Wiretapping, Patriot Act, and the endless war)

The American electorate is like someone who is good looking, smart, and in general, a magnet to the opposite sex yet chooses to only date the worst people they can find and then cries about how lousy men/women are while not giving those who would really appreciate them a chance. They only have themselves to blame.

Pass the beer and the reality T.V.